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Events when individuals believe they are going to hell Agree: 13 divider Disagree: 7

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Both Agreements and DisagreementsThose who had a vision that they were going to go "to hell" have many different versions of what hell could mean to them. There will be those who have a typical vision of what hell is, and that is what they will experience. There are those who will think hell was certain events or circumstances in their life and that is what they will experience for a period of time. This is not something that lasts for any great deal of time because spirit will come to those and those experiences and give them the choice to see that they can move out of those experiences and that is not what life after life is all about.

AgreeAll my case work with the spirits of my subjects has convinced me there is no residence of terrible suffering for souls, except on Earth. I am told all souls go to one spirit world after death where everyone is treated with patience and love. However, I have learned that certain souls do undergo separation in the spirit world, and this happens at the tme of their orientation with guides. They are not activated along the same travel routes as other souls. Those of my subjects who have been impeded by evil report that souls whose influence was too weak to turn aside a human impulse to harm others will go into seclusion upon reentering the spirit world. These souls don't appear to mix with other entities in the conventional manner for quite a while.

Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives, Michael Newton
pg. 49, 1996

AgreeOthers may insist that because of their transgressions they will be cast into hell, and because of the force of such belief, they may for some time actually encounter such conditions...there are always teachers available. They try to get through these false beliefs. In the Hades conditions, the individuals come somewhat more quickly to their senses. Their own fears trigger within themselves the answering release. Their need, in other words, more quickly opens up the inner doorways of knowledge. Their state does not usually last as long, therefore, as the heaven state.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 159, 1994

AgreeA belief in hell fires can cause you to hallucinate Hade's conditions. A belief in a stereotyped heaven can result in a hallucination of heavenly conditions. You always form your own reality according to your ideas and expectations. This is the nature of consciousness in whatever reality it finds itself. Such hallucinations, I assure you, are temporary.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 119, 1994

AgreeThe boredom and stagnation of a stereotyped heaven will not for long content the striving consciousness. There are teachers to explain the conditions and circumstances. You are not left alone, therefore, lost in mazes of hallucination.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 119-120, 1994

AgreeChristianity has believed in a heaven and a hell, a purgatory, and reckoning and so, at death, to those who so believe in these symbols, another ceremony is enacted, and the guides take on the guises of those beloved figures of Christian saints and heros. Then with this as framework, and in terms that they can understand, such individuals are told the true situation. Mass religious movements have for centuries fulfilled that purpose, in giving man some plan to be followed. It little mattered that later the plan was seen as a child's primer, a book of instructions complete with colorful tales, for the main purpose was served and there was little disorientation. In periods where no such mass ideas are held, there is more disorientation, and when life after death is completely denied, the problem is somewhat magnified.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 124, 1994

AgreeThere are no special places or situations or conditions [heaven, hell] set apart after physical death in which any given personality must have experience.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 159, 1994

AgreeA belief in heaven or hell, under certain conditions, can be equally disadvantageous. Some will refuse to accept the idea of further work, development, and challenge, believing instead that conventional heaven situations are the only possibility. For some time they may indeed inhabit such an environment, until they learn through their own experience that existence demands development, and that such a heaven would be sterile, boring, and indeed 'deadly'.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 159, 1994

Agreehaving in mind certain orthodox religious teachings on the subject, are those who dwell in greyness or darkness confined to those regions for all eternity? No, no! Never for all eternity. They will remain there for just so long as they wish. Indeed, some of them have lived in the dark realms for thousands of years, but thousands of years is not eternity, although it may seem like it sometimes to some of the inhabitants of those regions. But every soul so situated in darkness is free to terminate his sojourn there whenever he sees fit. The choice rests with himself. If the denizens of the darker regions show no aptitude towards spiritual progression and so lifting themselves out of the darkness, then they will remain where they are. No one forces them to stay there. They themselves elect to do so. The instant that one of the unhappy inhabitants shows the most minute tendency to lift himself out of the sad conditions of those dark realms, such tendency becomes a wish that others higher up can see, and every help is given to that soul to place his feet firmly and strongly upon the upward path of progression. That pathway may be steep and difficult, but neither so steep nor difficult but that someone cannot help him to surmount all the obstacles upon the way. This is spiritual progression in the fullest sense of the word. It is open to all.

Here and Hereafter, Anthony Borgia
pg. Chapt1, 1968

AgreeLet me take this moment to state again that there are no devils or demons, except as you create them out of your belief...good and evil effects are basically illusions. In your terms all acts, regardless of their seeming nature, are a part of a greater good. I am not saying that a good end justifies what you would consider an evil action. While you still accept the effects of good and evil, then you had better choose the good. I am saying this as simply as possible. There are profound complications beneath my words, however. Opposites have validity only in your own system of reality...The effect of opposites results, then, from a lack of perception. Since you must operate within the world as you perceive it, then the opposites will appear to be conditions of existence. These elements have been isolated for a certain reason, howerver. You are being taught, and you are teaching yourselves to handle energy, to become conscious cocreators with All That Is, and one of the 'stages of development' or learning processes includes dealing with opposites as realities. In your terms, the ideas of good and evil help you recognize the sacredness of existence, the responsibility of consciousness.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 342-343, 1994

AgreeAs long as you believe in a devil, for example, you will create one that is real enough for you, and for the others who continue to create him. Because of the energy he is given by others, he will have a certain consciousness of his own, but such a mock devil has no power or reality to those who do not believe in his existence, and who do not give him energy through their belief. He is, in other words, a superlative hallucination...those who believe in a hell and assign themselves to it through their belief can indeed experience one, but certainly in nothing like eternal terms. No soul is forever ignorant.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 238, 1994

AgreeThe Christian mystic Sadhu Sundar...was told: "Sometimes, after accident, the spirt departs while the body is still unconscious. Then, those spirits who have lived without thought of entering the Spiritual World...are extremely bewildered...So they have to remain for a considerable period in the lower and darker planes of the intermediate state. (Sadhu Sundar, Visions of the Spiritual World, 1926, pg. 6)

The Supreme Adventure: Analyses of Psychic Communications, Robert Crookall
pg. 29, 1974

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Both Agreements and DisagreementsA spirit cannot exist simultaneously in heaven and in a body on earth, or in two bodies on earth. However, when a spirit reincarnates, a residual energy is left in heaven that is able to communicate but this is not really the spirit itself that is there.

AgreeQuestion 92. Do spirits have the gift of omnipresence? In other words, can a spirit divide itself or exist at several points of space at the same time? Answer: No. A spirit cannot experience self-division.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 66, 2003

AgreeQuestion 137. Can the same spirit incarnate itself in two different bodies at the same time? Answer: No, the spirit is indivisible and cannot animate two different bodies simultaneously.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 51, 2003

AgreeThe energy of the soul is able to divide into identical parts, similar to a hologram. It may live parallel lives in other bodies although this is much less common than we read about. However, because of the dual capability of all souls, part of our light energy always remains behind in the spirit world.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. , 2003

AgreeMany people feel it is common for souls to live parallel lives. I have found this not to be true at all. The souls who choose to split into two or more bodies within the same general time frame on Earth want to accelerate their learning.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. , 2003

Agree...all souls who come to Earth leave a part of their energy behind in the spirit world, even those living parallel lives in more than one body...if someone you loved died thirty years ahead of you and has since reincarnated, you can still see them again upon your own return to the spirit world.

Destiny of Souls, Michael Newton
pg. , 2003

AgreeThose souls who are currently incarnated in one or more bodies at the moment may not be actively engaged with welcoming anybody back...radiate a dim light with low pulsating energy patterns and don't seem to communicate much with anyone.

Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives, Michael Newton
pg. , 1996

AgreeMost of my colleagues who work with past life clients have listened to overlapping time chronologies from people living on Earth in two places at once...What we must appreciate is, if our souls are all part of one great oversoul energy force which divides, or extends itself to create our souls, then why shouldn't the offspring of this intelligent soul energy have the same capacity to detach and then recombine?

Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives, Michael Newton
pg. , 1996

AgreeCan a soul have two or more incarnations at the same time?....they were unanimous that it is indeed possible....They were also unanimous that this is usually done in an attempt to accelerate the learning process by working on two life issues at once....Most of our sources who were asked how commonly this option is used seemed to suggest that it was rare.

The Wisdom of the Soul: Profound Insights from the Life between Lives, Ian Lawton
pg. , 2007

AgreeQuestion: You said that some personalities can be a part of more than one entity? Answer: There are not boundaries to the self, and no barriers put upon its development. A personality may originally be part of a given entity, and on its own develop interests quite different. It can on its own take a lonely way, or it can instead attach itself or gravitate toward other entities with interests like its own. The original connection will not be severed, but new ones made and formed.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. , 1994

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