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Both Agreements and DisagreementsGod is each and every item, each and every animal, each and every rock and tree, each and every individual being. God is in everything and everyone. The Creator has always been and always will be.

AgreeYou are cocreators. What you call God is the sum of all consciousness, and yet the whole is more than the sum of Its parts. God is more than the sum of all personalities, and yet all personalities are what He is. There is constant creation. There is within you a force that knew how to grow you from a fetus to a grown adult. This force is part of the innate knowledge within all consciousness, and it is a part of the God within you.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 246, 2001

AgreeThere is no personal God-individual in Christian terms...and yet you do have access to a portion of All That Is, a portion highly attuned to you...There is a portion of All That Is directed and focused within each individual, residing within each consciousness. Each consciousness is, therefore, cherished and individually protected. This portion of overall consciousness is individualized within you. The personality of God as generally conceived is a one-dimensional concept based upon man's small knowledge of his own psychology. What you prefer to think of as God is, again, an energy gestalt or pyramid consciousness. It is aware of itself as bein, for instance, you, Joseph. It is aware of itself as the smallest seed...This portion of All That Is that is aware of itself as you, that is focused within your existence, can be called upon for help when necessary. This portion is also aware of itself as something more than you. This portion that knows itself as you, and as more than you, is the personal God, you see. Again: this gestalt, this portion of All That Is, looks out for your interests and may be called upon in a personal manner. Prayer contains its own answer, and if there is no white-haired kind old father-God to hear, then there is instead the initial and ever expanding energy that forms everything that is and of which each human being is a part. This psychic gestalt may sound impersonal to you, but since its energy forms your person, how can this be? If you prefer to call this supreme psychic gestalt God, then you must not attempt to objectify him, for he is the nuclei of your cells and more intimate than your breath.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 245-246, 2001

AgreeConsciousness, seeking to know itself, therefore knows you. You as a consciousness, seek to know yourself and become aware of yourself as a distinct portion of All That Is. You not only draw upon this overall energy but you do so automatically since your existence is dependent upon it.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 245, 2001

AgreeSeth's Concept of God: He is not human in your terms, though he passed through human stages and here the Buddhist myth comes closest to approximating reality. He is not individual, but an energy gestalt...the way in which the universe expands, that it has nothing to do with space...a psychic pyramid of interrelated, ever-expanding consciousness that creates, simultaneously and instantaneously, universes and individuals that are given-through the gifts of personal perspective-duration, psychic comprehension, intelligence, and eternal validity. This absolute, ever-expanding, instantaneous psychic gestalt, which you may call God if you prefer, is so secure in its existence that it can constantly break itself down and rebuild itself. Its energy is so unbelievable that it does indeed form all universes and because its energy is within and behind all universes, systems, and fields, it is indeed aware of each sparrow that falls, for it is each sparrow that falls.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 237-238, 2001

AgreeThe soul is open-ended, therefore. It is not a closed spiritual or psychic system. I have tried to show you that the soul is not a separate, apart-from-you thing. It is no more divorced from you than - capital - God is. There is no need to create a separate god who exists outside of your universe and separate from it, nor is there any need to think of a soul as some distant entity. God, or All That Is, is intimately a part of you. 'His' energy forms your identity, and your soul is a part of you in the same manner.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 357, 1994

Agree... the fact that beneath these developments there are the eternal aspects and creative characteristics of a force that is both undeniable and intimate. All That Is, in other words, represents the reality from which all of us spring. All That Is, by its nature transcends all dimensions of activity, consciousness, or reality, while being a part of each...The journeys of the gods, therefore, represent the journeys of man's own consciousness projected outward. All That Is, however, within each such adventure. Its consciousness, and its reality, is within each man, and within the gods he has created. That last is in small letters, and gods shall always be in small letters. All That Is is capitalized.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 341, 1994

AgreeGod is more than the sum of all the probable systems of reality he has created, and yet he is within each one of these, without exception. He is therefore within each man and woman. He is also within each spider, shadow, and frog, and this is what man does not like to admit. God can only be experienced, and you experience him whether or not you realize it, through your own existence. He is not male or female, however, and I use the terms only for convenience's sake. In the most inescapable truth, he is not human in your terms at all, nor in your terms is he a personality. Your ideas of personality are too limited to contain the multitudinous facets of his multidimensional existence. On the other hand, he is human, in that he is a portion of each individual and within the vastness of his experience he holds an 'idea-shape' of himself as human, to which you can relate. He literally was made flesh to dwell among you, for he forms your flesh in that he is responsible for the energy that give vitality and validity to your private multidimensional self which in turn forms your image in accordance with your own ideas. This private multidimensional self, or the soul, has then an eternal validity. It is upheld, supported, maintained by the energy, the inconceivable vitality, of All That Is. It cannot be destroyed then, this inner self of yours, nor can it be diminished. It shares in those abilities that are inherent within All That Is. It must, therefore, create as it is created, for this is the great giving that is behind all dimensions of existence, the spilling-over from the fountain of All That Is.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 207-208, 1994

AgreeTo say that physical life is not real is to deny that reality pervades all appearance, and is a part of all appearance. In the same manner, God does not exist apart from or separate from physical reality, but exists within it and as a part of it, as he exists within and as a part of all other systems of existence.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 204, 1994

AgreeAll That Is simultaneously and unendingly creates itself...All That Is is a source of infinite and unending simultaneous action. Everything happens at once, and yet there is no beginning and end to it in your terms, so it is not completed in your terms at any given point...Ultimately a completed or finished God, or All That Is, would end up smothering his creation. For perfection presupposes that point beyond which development is impossible, and creativity at an end. There is order, but within this order there is freedom - the freedom of creativity, that characteristic of All That Is, that guarantees its infinite becoming. Now in that infinite becoming, there are states that you would call perfected, but had creativity rested within them, all of experience would be destined to grind to a halt...All That Is is inexhaustible. Infinity rests within simultaneous action...

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 300-301, 1994

AgreeAll That Is is alive within the least of itself, aware within for example the molecule. It endows all of its parts - or its creations - with its own abilities that then act as inspiration, impetus, guiding lines and principles, by which these parts then seek to further create themselves, their own worlds and systems. This is freely given.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 301, 1994

AgreeKardec Discussion: The intelligence of God is revealed in the work of God, just as the painter's appears through the picture on a canvas. The works of God are no more God than the picture is the artist who conceived and painted it.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 37, 2003

AgreeSoul consciousness is holographic. We are both individual aspects of the Source, and full holographic representations of it, all at the same time. However this does not mean that soul individuality is in itself an illusion. The definition of a hologram is that the part contains the whole, and yet at the same time is clearly distinguishable from it. The Source's primary aim, in diversifying into all the billions of holographic soul aspects of itself that operate in the various realms throughout the universe, is to experience all that is and can be. As individualized aspects of the Source who have chosen to reincarnate on this planet, we are merely fulfilling a small part of that objective by gaining a balance of all the experiences available via this route.

The Wisdom of the Soul: Profound Insights from the Life between Lives, Ian Lawton
pg. 58,59, 2007

AgreeS: We would ask that you visualize this scene. In all creation from the very edges of every universe to the center and back, there is a force, unseen but there nonetheless, which is an invisible structure holding everything together. In concrete there is rebarb (reinforcing bars), invisible to the naked eye but holding the concrete together nonetheless...Then this is the God concept. It is the rebarb of the universe which holds all together, unseen but there nonetheless. For were this to phase out for even a fraction of a second there would be total, utter, complete destruction. This is the God concept which has been given personality status on your world.

Between Death & Life: Conversations with a Spirit, Dolores Cannon
pg. 143-144, 1993

AgreeS...God simply is. God is, period...The concept of God is the sum of all, of everything. We are God. We are collectively God, we are individual pieces of God. God is not one, but God is all.

Between Death & Life: Conversations with a Spirit, Dolores Cannon
pg. 147, 1993

AgreeQuestion 10. Can any individual understand the essential nature of God? Answer: No, human beings lack the capability for such understanding... Discussion: God is infinite and eternal...God is unchangeable...God is immaterial and by nature differs from everything we call matter...God is unique...God is all-powerful...God is sovereignly just and good.

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. 35, 2003

AgreeQuestion 15: What is your view concerning pantheism, which states that all natural bodies, beings, and planets are parts of God and, taken together, make up the essence of God. Answer: Humanity, unable to become God, is eager to become at least a part of God

The Spirits Book: Modern English Edition, Allan Kardec
pg. , 2003

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Both Agreements and DisagreementsEverything on earth is just an individualized expression of who God is, but the actions that individuals take are not who God is. That is the actions of the ego and personality of the individuals.

AgreeJudgment separates us from those we judge. Separation, in turn, creates fear and prevents us from awakening to a truth we knew before we were born: that we are all one. Each of us is a spark of consciousness in a larger, unified Consciousness, a cell in the heart of one Divine Being. To judge is to separate ourselves from our divinity to release judgement is to remember it.

Courageous Souls: Do We Plan Our Life Challenges Before Birth?, Robert Schwartz
pg. 172, 2007

AgreeYou are cocreators. What you call God is the sum of all consciousness, and yet the whole is more than the sum of Its parts. God is more than the sum of all personalities, and yet all personalities are what He is. There is constant creation. There is within you a force that knew how to grow you from a fetus to a grown adult. This force is part of the innate knowledge within all consciousness, and it is a part of the God within you.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 246, 2001

AgreeThere is no personal God-individual in Christian terms...and yet you do have access to a portion of All That Is, a portion highly attuned to you...There is a portion of All That Is directed and focused within each individual, residing within each consciousness. Each consciousness is, therefore, cherished and individually protected. This portion of overall consciousness is individualized within you. The personality of God as generally conceived is a one-dimensional concept based upon man's small knowledge of his own psychology. What you prefer to think of as God is, again, an energy gestalt or pyramid consciousness. It is aware of itself as bein, for instance, you, Joseph. It is aware of itself as the smallest seed...This portion of All That Is that is aware of itself as you, that is focused within your existence, can be called upon for help when necessary. This portion is also aware of itself as something more than you. This portion that knows itself as you, and as more than you, is the personal God, you see. Again: this gestalt, this portion of All That Is, looks out for your interests and may be called upon in a personal manner. Prayer contains its own answer, and if there is no white-haired kind old father-God to hear, then there is instead the initial and ever expanding energy that forms everything that is and of which each human being is a part. This psychic gestalt may sound impersonal to you, but since its energy forms your person, how can this be? If you prefer to call this supreme psychic gestalt God, then you must not attempt to objectify him, for he is the nuclei of your cells and more intimate than your breath.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 245-246, 2001

AgreeConsciousness, seeking to know itself, therefore knows you. You as a consciousness, seek to know yourself and become aware of yourself as a distinct portion of All That Is. You not only draw upon this overall energy but you do so automatically since your existence is dependent upon it.

The Seth Material, Jane Roberts
pg. 245, 2001

Agree... the fact that beneath these developments there are the eternal aspects and creative characteristics of a force that is both undeniable and intimate. All That Is, in other words, represents the reality from which all of us spring. All That Is, by its nature transcends all dimensions of activity, consciousness, or reality, while being a part of each...The journeys of the gods, therefore, represent the journeys of man's own consciousness projected outward. All That Is, however, within each such adventure. Its consciousness, and its reality, is within each man, and within the gods he has created. That last is in small letters, and gods shall always be in small letters. All That Is is capitalized.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 341, 1994

AgreeGod is more than the sum of all the probable systems of reality he has created, and yet he is within each one of these, without exception. He is therefore within each man and woman. He is also within each spider, shadow, and frog, and this is what man does not like to admit. God can only be experienced, and you experience him whether or not you realize it, through your own existence. He is not male or female, however, and I use the terms only for convenience's sake. In the most inescapable truth, he is not human in your terms at all, nor in your terms is he a personality. Your ideas of personality are too limited to contain the multitudinous facets of his multidimensional existence. On the other hand, he is human, in that he is a portion of each individual and within the vastness of his experience he holds an 'idea-shape' of himself as human, to which you can relate. He literally was made flesh to dwell among you, for he forms your flesh in that he is responsible for the energy that give vitality and validity to your private multidimensional self which in turn forms your image in accordance with your own ideas. This private multidimensional self, or the soul, has then an eternal validity. It is upheld, supported, maintained by the energy, the inconceivable vitality, of All That Is. It cannot be destroyed then, this inner self of yours, nor can it be diminished. It shares in those abilities that are inherent within All That Is. It must, therefore, create as it is created, for this is the great giving that is behind all dimensions of existence, the spilling-over from the fountain of All That Is.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 207-208, 1994

AgreeTo say that physical life is not real is to deny that reality pervades all appearance, and is a part of all appearance. In the same manner, God does not exist apart from or separate from physical reality, but exists within it and as a part of it, as he exists within and as a part of all other systems of existence.

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul, Jane Roberts
pg. 204, 1994

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Why go to a church to worship God? A church is man made. God never said, And let there be aluminum siding. Climbing a tree to talk to God sounds like a better idea since only God can make a tree. And if that tree's on a golf course, all the better.

—Tom Robbins (Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas)